{"id":2963,"date":"2024-04-05T16:46:02","date_gmt":"2024-04-05T20:46:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wordpress-195849-4032129.cloudwaysapps.com\/driving-while-license-suspended-or-revoked-a-return-to-forever\/"},"modified":"2025-01-07T09:44:59","modified_gmt":"2025-01-07T14:44:59","slug":"driving-while-license-suspende","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/blog\/driving-while-license-suspende\/","title":{"rendered":"Driving Without a License (A True Story From 2 Michigan Courts)"},"content":{"rendered":"
As practicing criminal defense lawyers who concentrate in DUI and driver\u2019s license restoration<\/a> cases, my team and I spend all our time in the Greater-Detroit area courts of Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, and the surrounding counties. A key part of that is handling loads of DWLR (Driving With License Revoked) and DWLS (Driving With License Suspended) cases.<\/p>\n As we\u2019ll see, this area of the law is very much related to the larger driver\u2019s license restoration process. To begin our review here, note that a suspended license charge and a revoked license charge are essentially identical, and covered under the very same law (operating vehicle if license<\/a>, registration certificate or vehicle group designation suspended, revoked, or denied). We\u2019ll examine the penalties in the next section below.<\/p>\n To help explain, we\u2019re going to look at an interesting and somewhat recent pair of DWLR cases our law firm handled for a client, one local, and the other in a city outside the Greater-Detroit (hereafter referred to as the \u201cdistant court\u201d). Our experience there reinforces the reason our law firm generally restricts the criminal and DUI part of our practice to the Metro-Detroit area.<\/p>\n In the interests of diplomacy, I won\u2019t say where this \u201cdistant court\u201d is located, other than to point out that it was NOT in the Greater-Detroit area outlined above.<\/p>\n Our client hired us to handle two Driving While License Suspended, Revoked or Denied (DWLR) second-offense cases: one here, in Metro-Detroit, and the other in that \u201cdistant court\u201d mentioned above. His last DWLS\/DWLR conviction occurred more than 10 years before he hired us. In total, he had four prior DWLS\/DWLR convictions.<\/p>\n Those occurred because his Michigan driver\u2019s license had been revoked due to several prior DUI convictions, the last of which occurred about ten years before the arrest in this case. Before these DWLR cases, our client was actually eligible, time-wise, to file a formal driver\u2019s license restoration<\/a> appeal.<\/p>\n About nine years earlier, after his last DUI, our client left Michigan and obtained a license from his new state. To be clear, that could not happen currently because all 50 states and the District of Columbia now use the National Driving Register<\/a>.<\/p>\n Now, any suspension, revocation or hold in one state will prevent a person from getting a license in any other state.<\/p>\n About 5 years before his most recent arrest for DWLR in the \u201cdistant court,\u201d our client had come back to Michigan to visit family. He wasn\u2019t here long before getting pulled over in a local, Metro-Detroit city, and because his Michigan license was revoked (even though he had one from another state), he was charged with DWLS\/DWLR. 2nd offense.<\/p>\n He then returned home without taking care of this Michigan matter and all but forgot about it \u2014 until he came back a second time and got arrested for DWLS\/DWLR again, this time in the jurisdiction of that \u201cdistant court.\u201d<\/p>\n When his LEIN (Law Enforcement Investigation Network) record was run, it came up that he had an outstanding bench warrant<\/strong><\/a> for his failure to take care of the older DWLS\/DWLR case pending in the Greater-Detroit area. This meant he was then facing 2 cases \u2013 the first and older, local one, and the second in the \u201cdistant court.\u201d<\/p>\n As the saying goes, \u201cTiming is everything.\u201d Sometimes, however, the wheels of justice grind away on their own schedule, and that\u2019s what happened here. The timing didn\u2019t work out because it would have been preferable for his local case to be handled first, since we knew we could work that one out very favorably.<\/p>\n Unfortunately, the case in the \u201cdistant court\u201d came before the one in the local court.<\/p>\n Thus, we had to travel out there and work a deal with the local prosecutor there before handling the local case. To be fair, he seemed understanding about our client\u2019s situation.<\/p>\n We pointed out to the prosecutor that the driving record made clear it had been over ten years since our client was last convicted of any traffic offense<\/strong>. However, he would not budge and allow our client to plead to a \u201cnon-reporting\u201d offense. Instead, that prosecutor would only agree to reduce the charge from a second-offense DWLR to a first-offense DWLR.<\/p>\n The potential penalties for a 2nd offense are much more severe, so that was definitely a good break. That\u2019s clear enough just by looking at the key differences between a first offense and second offense charge under Michigan\u2019s motor vehicle code:<\/p>\n This prosecutor in the \u201cdistant court\u201d was tough. Right from the beginning, he didn\u2019t want to offer our client any<\/em> kind of deal. He was very reluctant to even go as far as we got him to go (dropping a 2nd offense to a 1st offense), because our client had numerous criminal convictions and traffic offenses on his record, including multiple DUI\u2019s.<\/p>\n While we knew this to be true, it has also been our experience (at least in the Greater-Detroit area) that very old convictions, like the kind our client had, are usually NOT used so strongly against someone who has remained trouble-free for such a long time.<\/p>\n To make matters worse, the prosecutor pointed out (and we later confirmed) that the judge to which our client\u2019s case had been assigned was known as being VERY tough in DWLS\/DWLR cases, especially those where the original suspension or revocation arose from DUI convictions. He further noted that this judge would often sentence people to the maximum jail term<\/em> the law allows in such cases.<\/p>\n Yikes!<\/p>\n This was a very different<\/em> situation than what we see in the local Greater Detroit area courts. Here, keeping the client out of jail in a DWLS\/DWLR case is something we do, quite literally, all the time.<\/p>\n Indeed, in most cases of driving without a license<\/a>, that\u2019s so easy to accomplish that we focus most of our effort on keeping any kind of conviction from going on his or her driving record so that he or she can get back on the road legally sooner, rather than later.<\/p>\n Never willing to just give up, we continued to beg and argue with the \u201cdistant court\u201d prosecutor. We simply refused to cave in until he relented even more. We wore him down until he became a little more helpful. He said that the best thing he could do in addition to reducing the charge from a 2nd offense to a 1st offense was to recommend a \u201ccap\u201d of 30 days in jail as the maximum for the client.<\/p>\n Yikes again!<\/p>\n It\u2019s important, for context, to understand that a Judge is never bound<\/em> to follow a prosecutor\u2019s recommended jail cap. However, at least, here, in the local, Greater-Detroit area, most will at least seriously consider and are quite likely to follow it.<\/p>\n Normally, in a local case like this, one shouldn\u2019t expect much trouble in getting the prosecutor to agree to a recommendation of \u201cno jail\u201d or \u201cno objection to probation only\u201d and having the court go along, if that was even necessary.<\/p>\n Remember, our client lived out of state. He had a job, and getting locked up in jail, even for 30 days, would have caused a major <\/em>disruption in his life. Thus, we set out to convince the Judge that even the 30-day jail cap was simply too much punishment, especially in this case.<\/p>\n Because of our determination, we were ultimately able to persuade the Judge to agree, and our client didn\u2019t have to do any jail time.<\/p>\n Instead, he went home on a term of non-reporting probation.<\/p>\n Somewhat ironically, yet not surprisingly, we were able to negotiate a non-reportable offense and get a short, probationary sentence in the local court, even though the arrest and charge in that case came after the one in the \u201cdistant court,\u201d and marked our client\u2019s 6th DWLS\/DWLR case overall.<\/p>\n That was a great result, especially when we remember that having a DUI record always makes things more complicated.<\/p>\n All DWLS\/DWLR cases fall into one of two categories:<\/p>\n It\u2019s always better to be in the \u201ceverything else\u201d category. The simple fact is that anyone who lost their license because of a DUI (or multiple DUIs) and has been charged with a DWLS\/DWLR can expect to be perceived differently than a person whose license suspension is the result of something like an unpaid traffic ticket.<\/p>\n Although being suspended or revoked for drunk driving doesn\u2019t make a DWLS or DWLR charge a more serious offense, it can, sometimes, be treated that way.<\/p>\n We must ensure that doesn\u2019t happen.<\/p>\n Unfortunately, in the case discussed above, our client\u2019s license charges were the result of several prior driving under the influence (DUI) convictions, and several prior DWLR convictions, as well.<\/p>\n Even so, it\u2019s only reasonable to expect that when those convictions are quite old and the person has remained out of trouble for a long time, he or she will be treated leniently.<\/p>\n In the \u201cdistant court,\u201d not only didn\u2019t it seem to matter how long our client had been trouble-free, but the prosecutor still held firm to the fact that this all started because he lost his license for multiple DUIs.<\/p>\n Sure, he got a break, and apparently a pretty good break by the local standards in that \u201cdistant court.\u201d However, in the Greater-Detroit area, it would all but be expected that the charge could be reduced to something like \u201callowing an unlicensed driver to drive\u201d (a non-reportable offense), or at least \u201cno operator\u2019s license on person\u201d (\u201cno ops).<\/p>\n And in pretty much every local, Metro Detroit-area court, our client would have almost certainly been treated more leniently than he was in the \u201cdistant court.\u201d<\/p>\n Under Michigan law, if a person whose license has been suspended or revoked is convicted of ANY driving infraction or traffic violation (or even if the Michigan Secretary of State otherwise determines that he or she operated a motor vehicle), then it must add on what\u2019s called a \u201cmandatory additional\u201d suspension or revocation.<\/p>\n Here\u2019s the language of the written law, explained in plain English afterward:<\/p>\n The upshot of all this is serious. If someone whose license has been revoked (revocations are for either 1 or 5 years) gets caught driving, he or she will be revoked all over again for ANOTHER 1 or 5 years. This is the \u201cadditional like period\u201d reference in the law.<\/p>\n That will totally prevent a person whose driving privileges have been revoked from even filing a driver\u2019s license restoration appeal for at least another 1 or 5 years.<\/p>\n It will also sideline anyone whose license has been suspended from getting his or her license back sooner, rather than later. These penalties must be avoided at all costs, and my team and I do it all the time.<\/p>\n The workaround is for us to prevent ANYTHING from going on your driving record. By doing that, we avoid all the \u201cmandatory additional\u201d penalties.<\/p>\n Not surprisingly, we have found that this is much easier to do in the Greater Detroit area than in less populated areas. That\u2019s another reason we limit our criminal and DUI practice to Metropolitan Detroit.<\/p>\n Remember, we are a genuine driver\u2019s license restoration law firm. We handle about 200 license appeal matters every year and GUARANTEE to win every driver\u2019s license restoration and out-of-state clearance appeal case we take.<\/p>\n A key difference between our license reinstatement practice is that it\u2019s state-wide. Every part of these cases can be handled remotely. In fact, all Secretary of State license appeal hearings held before the OHAO (Office of Hearings and Administrative Oversight, the division that handles all restoration and clearance appeal cases) are done remotely, using the Microsoft Teams platform.<\/p>\n By contrast, we generally limit our criminal (DUI and DWLS\/DWLR) practice to the Greater Detroit area because we regularly attend the same local courts and know how to get things done. We also know that such matters tend to be treated more leniently in the larger metropolitan areas. Like it or not, that\u2019s just the way things work.<\/p>\n Between these complimentary practice areas, my team and I have an unsurpassed working knowledge of the traffic and driver\u2019s license laws.<\/p>\n If you are facing a DWLS (suspended) or DWLR (revoked) license charge, don\u2019t wait to take the right steps to protect yourself. You need to be able to drive legally as soon as possible.<\/p>\n Our firm concentrates in driving offenses and license restorations. If you have been charged with DWLS or DWLR anywhere in the Greater-Detroit area (Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, or one of the surrounding counties), make sure you give our office a ring.<\/p>\n Remember, our driver\u2019s license restoration practice is state-wide, so we can help with that no matter where you live.<\/p>\n We offer free consultations, done over the phone, right when you call. Everything is confidential. My team and I are very friendly people who will be glad to answer all your questions and explain things. We always suggest you call around, compare firms, and invite you to call us back, even if to compare notes with anything some other lawyer has said.<\/p>\n In all cases, we offer both in-person or virtual appointments, so you can choose whichever is most convenient.<\/p>\n We can be reached directly, Monday through Friday, from 8:30 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. at either 248-986-9700<\/a> or 586-465-1980<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" As practicing criminal defense lawyers who concentrate in DUI and driver\u2019s license restoration cases, my team and I spend all our time in the Greater-Detroit area courts of Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, and the surrounding counties. A key part of that is handling loads of DWLR (Driving With License Revoked) and DWLS (Driving With License Suspended) […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":7771,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[61],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2963","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-revoked-and-suspended-driver-s-license"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2963","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2963"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2963\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8227,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2963\/revisions\/8227"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7771"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2963"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2963"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randalawyers.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2963"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}Our Client\u2019s History as an Unlicensed Driver<\/h2>\n
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Fighting For Reduced Jail Time<\/h2>\n
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We Never Give Up<\/h2>\n
Why We Always Fight For Our Clients<\/h2>\n
The Two Ways Michigan Courts Treat Suspended and Revoked Licenses<\/h2>\n
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How a DWLS or DWLR Charge Can Keep You From Getting Your License Back<\/h2>\n
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Learn From the Mistakes of Others<\/h2>\n